More on Gay activist group Soulforce to visit Saddleback on Fathers Day

June 6, 2008

Source: Editors at Lighthouse Trails

LTRP Note: We believe God loves every single human being. We do not believe any person should be treated with hateful or cruel behavior. We also believe the homosexual lifestyle is wrong and that God makes that very clear in His Word. Read more on this…

On Father’s Day Weekend (June 13-15), Rick Warren’s church will be visited by the American Family Outing, a project hosted by the gay activist group SoulForce. According to the website, “diverse families from around the country will create meaningful conversations about faith, family, and LGBT people.” These “meaningful conversations” will take place at six mega churches, two of which are Saddleback Church and Willow Creek Church. The first of these six visits began with Joel Osteen’s church on Mother’s Day and the last one will end on Father’s Day at Saddleback.

In regard to the visit to Saddleback on June 15th, according to one article, “Gay dads celebrate Father’s Day with Rick Warren, author of ‘The Purpose Driven Life,'” “a group of LGBT and straight-ally families will spend their holiday in a way that is both extraordinary and profoundly commonplace: they will attend services at Saddleback Church . . . The following day, the families will join leaders from Saddleback Church for a private meal and conversation

My comments-The interesting thing about all of this is Joel Osteens church turned these folks down.

Wow I’ll let that speak for itself.

This will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

Chris Rosebrough and Bob Dewaay came back from their meeting with Rick Warren with these comments-

Chris Rosebrough ”

So as I told Warren to his face, I will now say again. Pastor Warren you are wrong about repentance being the central message of the New Testament because you are only half right. Repent and preach BOTH repentance and the forgiveness of sins in Jesus name as our Lord has instructed.

Read entire article here-

This is why many, including myself, describe Purpose-Driven Preaching as Christless Christianity.

Comment by Chris Rosebrough here

 Chris new article Does Rick Warren or any Purpose-Driven Preacher have any good news to offer me?

And from Pastor Bob Dewaay

I wrote my book, Redefining Christianity, assuming that Rick Warren actually believes the Saddleback Church’s statement of faith, but that he refuses to preach it because he wants to be popular with the world and grow his movement. I still think that could still be true–I give him the benefit of the doubt.

To set the record straight, for those who think I am suddenly okay with Rick Warren–I am not. I asked him to preach Christ and honor the idea of scripture alone–

read the rest of this article here

My comments- We are all sinners scripture is very plain about that Romans 3:23 “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”

The danger with some in the homosexual community is they think they are ok and homosexuality is not a sin. Some spin this stating that Sodom and Gomorrah and homosexuality addressed in the book of Romans is based on lust. And that a homosexual who is in a loving relationship is ok with God and this is not sin.

This is where I believe the group Soulforce is coming from. This is a very dangerous place to be because you are rewriting Gods Words and its stand on homosexuality as sin.

Notice what Soulforce desires to do.

Thank you for your interest in applying for the visit to dialogue with Dr. Rick Warren and the congregation at Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California during June 13 – June 15, 2008.


Will Rick Warren ask them to turn from their sins?

Will Rick Warren preach Christ?

More on this to come I’m sure.


Tim Wirth

1 Timothy 2:1-6 ” 1I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone— 2for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6who gave himself as a ransom for all men—the testimony given in its proper time.

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