Rick Warren again ignores scripture

June 5, 2008

Rick Warren

“I see absolutely zero reason in separating my fellowship from anybody,” he declared. Noting he has theological differences with many of the diverse denominations that invite him to speak, Warren added, “That doesn’t stop me from fellowshipping with them.”

source http://www.baptiststandard.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3871&Itemid=133

Yet scripture teaches that believers and more so leaders have an obligation to judge everything by God’s Word. The believers at Corinth were rebuked because they were careless in this regard and were tolerant of false teachers (2 Cor. 11:1-4). The Bereans, on the other hand, were commended because they carefully tested everything by the Scriptures (Acts 17:11). The Bible says “he that is spiritual judgeth all things” (1 Cor. 2:15) and Jesus taught that we should “judge righteous judgment” (John 7:24). We are to judge preaching (1 Cor. 14:29) and sin in the churches (1 Cor. 5). We are to try the spirits (1 John 4:1).

In keeping with his unscriptural judge not philosophy, Warren uncritically quotes from a wide variety of theological heretics, especially Roman Catholics such as Mother Teresa, Henri Nouwen, Brother Lawrence (Carmelite monk), John Main (Benedictine monk who believes that Christ “is not limited to Jesus of Nazareth, but remains among us in the monastic leaders, the sick, the guest, the poor”), Madame Guyon(a Roman Catholic who taught that prayer is not from the mind does not involve thinking), John of the Cross (a pantheist who believed the mountains and forests are God). Warren does not warn his readers that these are dangerous false teachers who held to a false gospel and worshipped a false christ.

Mother Teresa and Henri Nouwen were universalists who believed that men can be saved apart from personal faith in Jesus Christ. When Mother Teresa died, her longtime friend and biographer Naveen Chawla said that he once asked her bluntly, “Do you convert?” She replied, “Of course I convert. I convert you to be a better Hindu or a better Muslim or a better Protestant. Once you’ve found God, it’s up to you to decide how to worship him” (“Mother Teresa Touched other Faiths,” Associated Press, Sept. 7, 1997). Henri Nouwen said, “Today I personally believe that while Jesus came to open the door to God’s house, all human beings can walk through that door, whether they know about Jesus or not. Today I see it as my call to help every person claim his or her own way to God” (Henri Nouwen, Sabbatical Journey).

Why does Rick Warren continually and non-critically promote heretics?

In keeping with his unscriptural judge not philosophy, Warren uncritically quotes from a wide variety of theological heretics, especially Roman Catholics such as Mother Teresa, Henri Nouwen, Brother Lawrence (Carmelite monk), John Main (Benedictine monk who believes that Christ “is not limited to Jesus of Nazareth, but remains among us in the monastic leaders, the sick, the guest, the poor”), Madame Guyon(a Roman Catholic who taught that prayer is not from the mind does not involve thinking), John of the Cross (a pantheist who believed the mountains and forests are God). Warren does not warn his readers that these are dangerous false teachers who held to a false gospel and worshipped a false christ.

Mother Teresa and Henri Nouwen were universalists who believed that men can be saved apart from personal faith in Jesus Christ. When Mother Teresa died, her longtime friend and biographer Naveen Chawla said that he once asked her bluntly, “Do you convert?” She replied, “Of course I convert. I convert you to be a better Hindu or a better Muslim or a better Protestant. Once you’ve found God, it’s up to you to decide how to worship him” (“Mother Teresa Touched other Faiths,” Associated Press, Sept. 7, 1997). Henri Nouwen said, “Today I personally believe that while Jesus came to open the door to God’s house, all human beings can walk through that door, whether they know about Jesus or not. Today I see it as my call to help every person claim his or her own way to God” (Henri Nouwen, Sabbatical Journey).

Why does Rick Warren continually and non-critically promote heretics?

source http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/rickwarren-judgenot.html

My comments-Rick also unapolegetically promotes and endorses new age sympathizers Leonard Sweet and Ken Blanchard. Both who speak at his church.

As well as Rick friendship with Paul Yonggi Cho.

From a Mike Oppenheimer article-

Warren was a key speaker at Yonggi Cho’s church growth conference in 1997. Cho is known to mix occult concepts with Christian teaching. He is especially known for his word faith /visualization techniques. Warren was also a key speaker at Schuller’s Institute for Successful Church Leadership.David Cho’s connection to Robert Schuller is evident. Robert Schuller writes in the foreword to Yonggi Cho’s book, The Fourth Dimension: “I discovered the reality of that dynamic dimension in prayer that comes through visualizing…. Don’t try to understand it. Just start to enjoy it! It’s true. It works. I tried it.

To say Cho is promoting mysticism would be an understatement. He says if Buddhists and Yoga practitioners can accomplish their objectives through fourth dimensional powers, then Christians should be able to accomplish much more by using the same means. (Paul Yonggi Cho, The Fourth Dimension, vol. 1, 1979, pp.37, 41) “You create the presence of Jesus with your mouth… He is bound by your lips and by your words… Remember that Christ is depending upon you and your spoken word to release His presence.” (Ibid., 83)

In Warren’s interview with Cho we can see his respect for him. 

Warren: Do you think American churches should be more open to the prayer for miracles?
Cho: I feel that most American churches really don’t believe in the miracles of God. The church is getting very institutionalized. But I tell you that by a new anointing the American church would start to believe the miracle of the nation of God’s hand.

Warren: Can you please pray a prayer of blessing to the pastors that are reading this?(Rick Warren And David Yonggi Cho Talk About Using The Internet by Tim Bednar July 25, 2003) (http://www.e-church.com/Blog-detail.asp?EntryID=301&BloggerID=1)

Rick Warren speaking to David Yonggi Cho: “I’veread your books on Vision and Dreams – speak to pastors about how you hear the voice of the Holy Spirit?…What advice would you give to a brand new minister?…Do you think American churches should be more open to the prayer for miracles?” (Rick Warren, Breakfast With David Yonggi Cho And Rick Warren, on Pastors.com)

Cho should not be consulted or endorsed on this topic. Cho’s testimony of abandoning doctrine to produce miracles is what his ministry is about.

source  http://www.letusreason.org/Popteac23.htm

Another big problem with Rick Warren has always been his root on how he built his business at Saddleback .

Rick ignores or distorts scripture.

If you choose to ignore scripture and its council, Gods not in what you do no matter what kind of success you appear to have to the world.

Warren went around and asked the council of unsaved people on there way to hell on how to build a church. This is how Warren business at Saddleback was built on the whims of the unsaved.

What does scripture state about how the early church was built?

Acts 2:38-42

38 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.”

A Vital Church Grows

   
40 And with many other words he testified and exhorted them, saying, “Be saved from this perverse generation.” 41 Then those who gladly[a] received his word were baptized; and that day about three thousand souls were added to them. 42 And they continued steadfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, in the breaking of bread, and in prayer.

You will have to decide whether you want to follow the Way.
Or Rick Warrens way.
Eph 5:11
11And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
This is what the Bible teaches compare that to Rick Warrens quote at the start of this article.
What is even scarier is that maybe Rick Warren does not consider these people he endorses false teachers or New Ager sympathizers.
Thats a discernment issue then.
And we cant throw out discernment for the sake of building a worldwide business.
In the future there will be a One World Relgion which I believe as many others do that Rick Warren is contributing to the formation of.
Revelation 13:11 — “And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast…”
Now for the record I do believe that there will be a actual antichirst as spoken of in scripture.
One man who will be at war with the saints empowered by satan.
See Rev 13 1-18
There are some who laugh at this.
Could it be they will be the first to be deceived.
The Great Apostasy

 1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ[a] had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin[b] is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God[c] in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? 6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He[d] who now restrains will do so until He[e] is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Something to think about.
Here is another article that has bearing on what we are discussing here
Peace
Tim Wirth

 

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One Response to “Rick Warren again ignores scripture”

  1. Trish Kaehne said

    Scares me a little bit.. I think who is actually teaching the truth? This Rick Warren seems so popular with people. I supposes it reinforces that we have to keep reading the bible and not rely so much on what’s popular reading at the time.

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